but that's his way of getting around the debt ceiling. what do you think of that? >> i think the whole thing is the race to the bottom of ridiculous new plans. to be fair, the trillion dollar coin has taken it. nothing is going to be sillier than that. >> platinum. platinum. but have you ever seen those nature shows where the birds hop around around fluff up their feathers to intimidate a rival or aattract a mate? i hope and believe that is what the president and congress are doing right now. trying to be bigger and bigger and more threatening. in the end they're going to make a deal. they always make a deal. >> keith boynkin, this is argentina type stuff. this is banana republic type stuff. democrats don't want to cut spending. they're trying to come up with phony arguments. only boehner wants the one for one. this law professor has got this i.o.u. it did work for a spell in california. but he says that the congress has the constitutional authority to raise the debt. what is going on here? and -- >> do you think it's a good idea, larry, for the united states gover